Oh dear...for those of your who don't like a rant-athon...but this
Paladaium jiggery pokery has got me wound up.
On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 19:32, Graeme Fowler wrote:
> On 2 Jul 2002, Lee wrote:
> > Don't under estimate the power of the dark side.....
>
> Well.. it would need the dark side to acquire a pretty hefty chunk of
> capital first. I doubt even MS could afford to purchase Cisco, Juniper,
> Nortel, 3Com, Extreme, Alteon, F5 and so on and force them all to stop
> using their own <ahem> "proprietary" protocols and start to use MS
> standards ;-)
>
Think Enron, Think Arthur Anderson....think Worldcom, great compaines
can fail in instance, because there far too many people, getting far to
fat, at other people's expense. Corruption.....it's called, and it's
rife, just look at the american democratic system.....read some Michael
Moore.....Interesting stuff. I was so disapointed when our own Goverment
decide to go the .net and microsoft route? Open operating systems
developed and funded by goverment (i.e our money) now there's a thought,
application developers still get thier wedge, but we managed to avoid
paying the microsoft tax, I hate to think how much of our hard earn
currency goes over to the microsoft cash hoover........and what do we
pay for? operating system that want 'operate' on anything which might be
deemed affordable.....moan moan moan.... Our own goverment ministers say
open source is good for britain, but where the help, and funding for
open source projects in the country....???
> Plus I've never seem Windows running on a MIPS chip, nor on a PPC. And as
> that's what the vast bulk of installed routers[0] are running on, it would
> require a massive rewrite.
>
Protocol Changes are trivial, but you'r thinking old school, think
encryption, think access to key's, think certificates and trust
infrastructures....think The Deathstar. Encryption changes everything,
it makes you rely more on on trust structures....and these trust
structures are not our own goverment (that I trust), but some two bit
company, that's got two big for it boots, and thinks it can dictate the
future of computing and information to us.....
> [0] probably.
>
> Oh, hang on, they could simply port .NET, right? And then we'll all be
> subsumed anyway.
>
Correct!
> Seriously for a moment: although this Pandemonium gadger will eventually
> turn up, I really don't think it's going to be the big issue it's being
> made out to be at the minute. Think "modchip". Think "workaround". More
> importantly, think "bollocks to 'em, I'll run something else instead."
>
Think Goto Jail, Think Little guy vs MEGA corp. What's next, Chips
implanted in your head from birth, bar codes on your forehead....I wish
I was joking...I really do. If you remove people's right's one at time,
it's much easier to digest than suddenly imposing a police
state.....America's going down that route, hopefully our 'population' is
more clued up, and will be active against such measures.
> Let's face it - this is essentially a pre-market marketing ploy by all the
> companies involved to see what the reaction is. If enough people in the
> industry raise a stink, changes will happen. And that's what we'll see;
> there are far too many 'essential' tools out there written by third
> parties who would in no way want to get involved here.
>
You rekon? you really believe this? Haven't you been awake recently?
don't listen to the news? ;-). A what industries are you talking about?
if your talking about the computer/software industry, then your
mistaken, Every Industry on the planet, will be affected by changes in
our technolgical freedom, as every industry I know uses technology in
some form or another......ever wondered why you can't export an G4 mac
to russia?
You also neglect to mention that some of these 'companies' have more
resources , and more influence in goverment that other 'countries',
thier not companies, there International Corporations....that are in
existance for one thing...money=power....and thier shareholders.....big
difference...goverment actually are elected... don't shrug off a threat
to your basic rights 'pre-marketing' marketing is the world now, you
can't escape from it, it's a sad fact of life that a high proportion of
people actually believe marketing......now that's really scary, I'm just
off to purchase some items of the shopping channel. :-(
> Of more concern to me personally is the fact that the EULA for a recent MS
> media player patch *actually gives MS admin rights on your machine*. It
> essentially gives the billdroids the right to install or remove whatever
> software they like from your machine, without requiring your consent or
> knowledge, and with no comeback if anything then breaks. Sounds good,
> don't it?
>
It's 'improving the customer experince', Microsoft own's you already,
the sad fact is that most people just don't realise it. The really sad
thing is, it's not microsoft fault, Sun is waiting to be as evil, and I
suppose some other company that values money and greed over freedom will
come along as show us 'The Road Ahead'.
Although it's not all roses, been looking at Linux Libraries today,
..phew what a mess, symlinks every where, different version all over the
place, I feel linux is slipping slowly in to DLL MS hell.....??? I don't
think rpm iis really up to the job off managing linux library
dependices....and general administration...something needs to be done.
If only there was a library tool to help....is there?
VHS=microsoft
BetaMAX=Linux..
but this time Betamax will win.(or perhaps I'll just go back to
Amigados)
check out www.copyleftmedia.org.uk ....interesting stuff...me thinks.
> Graeme
>
Laters,
Lee
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