Re: [nottingham] Re: your mail

From: Matthew Sackman (matthew@sackman.co.uk)
Date: Fri 18 Jan 2002 - 22:40:41 GMT


On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 10:08:49PM +0000, Robert Davies wrote:
> I use Reiser mostly now, but once ext3 has had time to settle down may use it
> for filesystems like /, /boot, /home, /usr, with Reiser for /opt, /var,
> /var/spool. ext2 compatability is attractive for system filesystems, because
> of convenient, recovery disks. This may well be blown out of the water if I
> use LVM + raidtools for everything.
>
> XFS or JFS may slip past on the rails, and overtake Reiser clearly. There's
> not really a clear winner yet, more a mix of pro's and cons. But the new
> fs's are clear wins against ext2.
>
> One problem with the benchmarking has been, that it's tended to happen with
> immature codebases, just after releases. Really it's interesting to see,
> benchmarks in Q2 this year, when these filesystems have been in use and
> tweaked.

I agree with all of that. However, I've used ext3 from about kernels 2.4.4 as
I tried reiser on 2.4.2 and got bitten because it was buggey and lost the whole
of /var which then forced me to do a complete reinstall from CDs and then a
250MB download over dialup to get back to a current state (thank god for
apt-get). Ext3 seems stable - I've only once had an oops on me, but that was
because I'd compiled the kernel with the wrong version of gcc (I think I used
a 3.x version which still has issues with kernel AFAIK).

One interesting point is that the fast file system which uses soft updates and
is used on almost all *BSDs is seldom used linux: to me this seems odd
a paper at http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/usenix2000/general/full_papers/seltzer/seltzer.pdf explains the advantages and
from what I can gather it seems as if it's faster and just as safe as journalled
file systems. Any comments?

Matthew

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