Re: [nottingham] Woody!!

From: Matthew Sackman (matthew@sackman.co.uk)
Date: Thu 01 Aug 2002 - 20:05:33 BST


On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 03:01:41PM +0100, Robert Davies wrote:
> On Friday 26 July 2002 20:19, you wrote:
> I gave up on Debian, used Potato for very long time, because there was no
> Testing, perhaps the policy changed, but that was only made available when
> 'woody/unstable', was being 'theoretically frozen'.

Yes, testing has been a majorly good idea: before testing was around I
was tracking unstable which back then was very very rocky. I remember
when perl was 'broken' which caused major problems indeed. There were
some other fairly comical (in hindsight) breakages back then.

> Perhaps the Debian policy changed but when 2.2 (Potato) was released it was
> bang up to date on most things, whereas 3.0 (Woody) is obsolete already due
> to User Interface improvements, on things like KDE and GNOME.

That's odd. When I started, Potato was just about to be released, and
when it was released I remember the same criticisms about it being out
of date. Woody is more out of date largely because of the rewrite of the
security distribution system which has kept woody frozen for 2 months
without being released. If it wasn't for that then I don't think there
would be quite the same level of criticism.

> Hopefully they'll go for smaller changes, with more regular releases and keep
> Testing about, it seems like a very good idea, but that DID NOT happen after
> last stable release, and most Debian users went to Woody / unstable.

Testing is here to stay, and for most desktops is used. Opinion on the
lists is that stable is only really used for servers. Somehow I doubt
they'll release more often. Just not their style!

Matthew

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