Re: [nottingham] ECN and the wonderful world of firewalls

From: Robert Davies (Rob_Davies@NTLWorld.Com)
Date: Sun 06 May 2001 - 16:16:24 BST


> * I didn't realise it was "that recently" that MTU discovery
> came in - OOI do you remember when this was?

Yes, Solaris 2 was one of the early adopting systems. I would guess it was
as late as 1993. You have to remember that the End-2-End networking
theories only really won the argument late 80's early 90's, and before that
store and forward concepts like X.25 designed (and remained popular through
the mid-90's).

> * I hate a load of things about TCP/IP and one of them has to
> be the way these things are kludged together - there are
> much better ways to do packet size calculations than trial
> and error :P *cough*ATM*cough*[0]

There aren't actually, because you can't be sure of your path, it is a
matter of dynamic tuning like your window sizes, round trip times and
transmission rates.

ATM gets round this by mandating a pathetically small fixed cell size (I
suppose you know how they arrived at it?) :)

Does anyone know anything more about ECN, and whether there's gonna be DoS
attacks if anyone takes notice of it, with faked packets with ECN bits set?

Rob

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